Musicians Collaboration Studio
Virtual Music Studio => Finished Works => Topic started by: stoman on August 17, 2009, 03:56:45 PM
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This song took a loooooooooong time from the first draft to the final version. It started out as a synthetic song idea posted at the Open Music Factory, a collaboration site that no longer exists.
Dan Clancy (atljam) and Bobby Clohessy (BlackStratman) were both members of the OMF, like myself, and they got the ball rolling with their guitar contributions. Dan also wrote the first version of the lyric and did a vocal audition, but he wasn't satisfied with it himself.
Then nothing happened for a long time, until I removed the dust from it and posted the song here. Eric Savoie took the original song title but wrote his own lyric which you can read along below. He also played the bass, but what really blew me away was his vocals. I'm sure you all can relate! :)
Jerry Langenfeld added drums, and I arranged the whole thing.
Mixing was difficult for me, so Paulo joined and did a very nice rock/pop mix. I like that mix, but I also wanted to proceed with my own mix as our sonic visions of the song are slightly different. I wanted to concentrate more on the folk/rock aspect, while Paulo took the rock/pop approach. Both are perfectly valid options IMO, and in the meantime we even decided to do another, pure acoustic version of the song.
But enough words now. Listen yourself! :)
Lyrics & Vocals: Eric Savoie
Acoustic Guitar: Dan Clancy
Electric Guitars: Bobby Clohessy
Bass: Alexander Wilden
Drums: Gerald Langenfeld
Composed by Steffen Offermann & Eric Savoie
Arrangement & synthesizer: Steffen Offermann
Mix 1 (Paulo) (http://stoman.org/download/No_Tears_Paulos_Master_03.mp3)
Mix 2 (Steffen) (http://stoman.org/download/Stoman_feat_Eric_Savoie_No_Tears.mp3)
No Tears
(Eric Savoie, 2009)
The sun is rising
with the moon high in the sky
The only time I have is borrowed
The gallows' callin'
and it draws me with its song
The sun won't rise for me tomorrow
No tears, No tears
left for me
No fear, no fear
left in me
fistful of steel
and a midnight state of mind
that woman's diggin' her own grave
I told her once
I told her 15 thousand times
The wind won't wash her sins away
Can't help but love the way
her eyes light up the night
Can't help but hate the way they roam
10,000 tears fill up
the hollow in my soul
and the thoughts I have just chill me to the bone
(Bridge)
I lie here waiting like the night
She crept back in without the light
Our hearts were beating like a drum
And when her eyes refused to lie
I felt the fear inside me die
Forgiveness comes, but not for some
No tears, no tears
left in me
No fear, no fear
left in me
The gallows' callin'
and it draws me with its song
the sun won't rise for me tomorrow
The sun is rising
with the moon high in the sky
the only time I have is borrowed
No tears, no tears
left for me
No fear, no fear
left for me
If anybody wants a FLAC or APE, please drop me a note!
Regards,
Steffen
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Really came out good guys! Both mixes have their endearing qualities :)
-E
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Excellent! Both mixes are great! nice work everyone! It paid off! 8)
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Steffen,
I would agree with Big Easy and Tricia - both mixes have their charms!!
Good solid tune with great vocals and excellent playing with taste.
Nice warm production to it as well. The "bag-pipe" sounding voice works very well.
Steffen, you have included quite a lot of distorted electric guitar for a 'folk" version :)
Great job!
Andy
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Much thanks for leting me in and I've learned a lot with this one, mainly about humain relationship... Also worked with different folks and that's always cool.
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Cool.... after listening again... I like both directions... nice to hear how much difference the mixes can make.. thanks for the opportunity to play on this one... 8) J
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Hi Steffen,
Great to get this one to the finished forum. Both mixes turned out well, I know both you and Paulo spent a lot of time mixing this so thanks to you both. Also Im pleased to be part of a completed song with Eric's great vocals and Jmans ( as always ) excellent drums. Thanks for the gig ;D .
I hope Dan looks in soon Im sure he'll like how this turned out.
Bobby
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As per Black Stratman request, I'm at work now but later when I get home I'll post the 24 bit Wave as ape.
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Thanks Paulo :)
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A , Great song full of atmosphere - possibly slightly overlong , both mixes have their merits though I still think the mixes aren't quite up to the standard of the song itself. Like you say mixing is difficult, but you learn something from each mix. If it makes MC artists Vol.III put me down for the remix. ;)
CD
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Thanks, guys! :)
CD, any time you like! :)
Regards,
Steffen
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Thanks CD for the comments... I don't think I'm an expert mixer, I'm still learning... All the time learning and I come to the conclusion that I'm never happy and I know nothing compared to others :)
Here's the monkey full featured file.
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Steffen, you have included quite a lot of distorted electric guitar for a 'folk" version :)
Sure - it's a folk-rock song! :)
There are actually several different definitions of folk-rock. The original folk-rock style indeed had no electric guitars (and no drums!), but in British folk-rock both are valid instruments.
Nevertheless I'm looking forward to the pure acoustic version without any electric guitars. :)
Regards,
Steffen
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Steffen, you have included quite a lot of distorted electric guitar for a 'folk" version :)
Sure - it's a folk-rock song! :)
There are actually several different definitions of folk-rock. The original folk-rock style indeed had no electric guitars (and no drums!), but in British folk-rock both are valid instruments.
Nevertheless I'm looking forward to the pure acoustic version without any electric guitars. :)
Regards,
Steffen
Steffen,
You do have a point there.
There was a folk festival held in town recently - and a group called "The Decemberists" played. Their set was a great mix of prog-folk with songs comprising of acoustic based parts interspersed with heavy rock guitar laden passages.
Quite enjoyable!! A lot of their music in on You Tube
Cheers
Andy
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Very cool track guys...great vocals and the pipes are a great touch....everyone excelled themselves on this
Really nice
Ian
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Nice tune guys. Great voice on this. Both mixes sound good. I tend to lean more towards David's. Seems to have a bit more punch to it. :)
Dave
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Nice tune guys. Great voice on this. Both mixes sound good. I tend to lean more towards David's. Seems to have a bit more punch to it. :)
Dave
Who's David and where can I hear his mix?
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;D My bad. Paulo's!! I'm so used to hearing Davidinoz mixing. ::) I think Paulo got a great full sound.
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Thanks, Dave!
I'm glad Paulo mixed his own version of the song as most people seem to prefer that mainstream approach. I am more into "lighter" mixes with a lot of air, so I probably wouldn't be able to do a "mainstream mix" even if I wanted to.
But I'm not 100% satisfied with my own mix. The guitars still don't seem to blend well with the rest. I'll continue tweaking that mix and updating the link on my site, so the link in post #1 of this thread will always be up to date.
Regards,
Steffen
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What a great song.
The music and lyrics really work well and for me, the vocals really are the soul of this song.....mesmerising.
Has a Kelly Joe Phelps/Eddie Vedder feel to it. Lots of character and bags of atmosphere to this.
Steffen, this is fine songwriting. Well done to all the players, you've produced an excellent song.
Billy.
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Ooooh, Steffen, what a gorgeous song! To me, both versions are lovely.
(Plus I'm partial to bagpipes. ;) Great lyric and vocals, excellent instrumentation.
Well done all round, everyone. :)
Donna
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Thanks, Donna and Billy! I'm glad you like it. :)
I'm not the kind of guy to praise things to the skies, but I must say I felt privileged to be working with those guys - each one of them, and I do hope that many more projects will follow.
Regards,
Steffen
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This is very cool! Nice job everyone :)
AJ
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I forgot to say "thank you", AJ.
Thank you, AJ. :D
BTW: I replaced the link with the latest version of the song - which I am finally satisfied with. I removed most of the electric guitar parts and did a lot of other tweaks too. If anybody wants to listen again, comments of any kind are greatly appreciated. :)
Here is the link again (for those who don't want to scroll down):
No Tears - Stoman's latest (final) mix (http://stoman.org/download/Stoman_feat_Eric_Savoie_No_Tears.mp3)
Regards,
Steffen
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Hi Steffen,
Like the mix, much different to the previous one but they are both good final mixes ;)
Bobby
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Oh, and I forgot to mention that in this version the bass was played by Alexander Wilden (who finally joined MCS :) ).
I'll edit the credits in the first post accordingly ...
Regards,
Steffen
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Man , I really enjoyed this song !!!
Well performed .
My first listening of a song finished here at the board.
All the best
Jan
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Thanks, Jan, glad to hear. :)
Any songs of yours we can listen to?
Regards,
Steffen
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Thanks, Jan, glad to hear. :)
Any songs of yours we can listen to?
Regards,
Steffen
Steffen , just click on "My Stuff" in my signature :)
All the best
Jan
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Guys:
Good one, well done love the vocals.
Paul
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Listening to the folk mix... haven't listened to the other version... blowing me away! VERY nice! ANd you're right, great vocals! Is that guy here on MC?
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Thanks, guys!
Yes, Paul, Eric is on MCS, but he does not show up often.
@Jan: I'm listening to your music now. Very interesting. Would be nice to collaborate on a song or two.
"Ghost of Rock And Roll" is great. Is that you singing?
Regards,
Steffen
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Steffen , thank you for listening and your comment :) Yes , that`s me singing.
Yes, it would be interesting to collaborate on a song or two. This is kind of new to me :)
All the best
Jan
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Listening to the folk mix... haven't listened to the other version... blowing me away! VERY nice! ANd you're right, great vocals! Is that guy here on MC?
Thanks Paul!
Yes, Paul, Eric is on MCS, but he does not show up often.
I'm here. I check in now and then but I've been busy with my live band lately. Plus, the muse seems to have found someone else :'( But she'll be back, she always comes back....
-E
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That darn muse is fickle! :-) Stick around, Eric, maybe she'll jump on your shoulder!
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For those who want it: I attached an APE of my mix. 8)
Regards,
Steffen
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Perhaps an AAIF file?
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As requested: Uncompressed AIFF attached.
Regards,
Steffen
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For those who want it: I attached an APE of my mix. 8)
Regards,
Steffen
Thanks Steffen , I have downloaded it also and added to my Stoman mixes folder ( think I'll have to add an external drive for Stoman mixes only ;D ;D ;D ;D )
Bobby
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think I'll have to add an external drive for Stoman mixes only
Only the good ones, hopefully. Can't be that many then ... ;)
Regards,
Steffen
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This song too has been revised. The new mix is galaxies better than the old one (IMO).
I did this mix last weekend although the file date is 31st August. So you can be sure that I did it with relaxed ears. :)
Regards,
Steffen
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This song too has been revised. The new mix is galaxies better than the old one (IMO).
I did this mix last weekend although the file date is 31st August. So you can be sure that I did it with relaxed ears. :)
Regards,
Steffen
Much better :)
Great song with a solid mix now >:D
CD
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love this song! The great lyrics so well executed. Great mood! both mixes rock. I can't pick a favorite. 8)
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Thank you, guys! :)
BTW, has anybody seen the other collaborators lately?
Regards,
Steffen
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Sounds good Steffen.
...BTW, has anybody seen the other collaborators lately?
No and it's a shame, that singer is great.
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Yes, he is. But I think Eric is too busy with his band. They do pretty cool blues rock stuff!
I haven't seen Jerry for a long time either. Does anybody know what he's doing now?
Dan seems to drop by once per year ... A real shame, as we could use such a great guitar player in a lot of collabs.
Bobby also has been busy lately, and Alex - well, I see him at work every day, but not on the forum ...
I sometimes wish I had a permanent virtual band to work with. Or even a "real" band, but then again I don't play live (and don't wish to). So many songs will never be played (or even written) ...
Regards,
Steffen
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Bobby also has been busy lately, and Alex - well, I see him at work every day, but not on the forum ...
Regards,
Steffen
I'm still looking in when I get time, I have a whole load of distractions going on at the moment though so my time is very limited :(
Great mix btw Steffen.
Bobby